Talk:Oracle licensing
Contents
- 1 How about some actual costed examples?
- 2 Hidden Costs
- 3 Comments from anonymous poster
- 4 Multi-core factor for processors
- 5 ASP Provision
- 6 Ads removed from article
- 7 Personal Edition & Options
- 8 Concurrent Device Licenses
- 9 Any chance of information on USAGE restrictions?
- 10 Named User Plus
- 11 License
How about some actual costed examples?[edit]
Here's the current "E-business Discount" Schedule. It applies to purchases on http://store.oracle.com as of the time I tested the shopping cart in October 2006:
Volume Range Discount
$0-$25,000 = 0%
$25,001-$50,000 = 5%
$50,001-$100,000 = 10%
$100,001-$250,000 = 15%
$250,001-$1,000,000 = 20%
$1,000,001+ = 25%
If this seems out of your price range... go speak with an Oracle Partner who has people that worked at Oracle (i.e., Oracle License Advisors ).
Hidden Costs[edit]
Refer to Mike Ault's blog Hidden Costs.
Usage of tables, views, stored PL/SQL is tracked in 10g and may be used for auditing licence compliance.
Comments from anonymous poster[edit]
Some of the detail below relating to processor counts might need revision. For the purpose of Standard Edition One and Standard Edition, a processor is now defined as an occupied socket - and in the case of a multi-chip module, each chip is counted as an occupied socket. This modification to the rules took effect sometime in 2006.
- I cannot find any reference to this. Any further clarification will be helpful.
Also, a footnote in the latest (Oct 2007 pricelist) provides an example of multicore discount but also says 'other than Standard Edition One programs or Standard Edition programs'. This might be interpreted as meaning that the discount only applies to Enterprise - although this is not generally held to be the case!
- Please include the licensing link from Oracle in the licensing section. Oracle Software Investment Guide (warning 4.3MB file). The FAQ offer less confusing descriptions : Oracle multicore FAQ. Checking the section Q: What is the new multi-core pricing and licensing model?' you will find this for all programs with Standard Edition or Standard Edition One in the program name, Oracle recognizes a socket as equivalent to a processor for the purposes of counting and licensing these programs.
- It clearly show that, for Oracle SE and Oracle SE1, Oracle are using per CPU socket license for AMD/Intel, regardless dual-core or Quad-core. The 0.5 per core multiplier for AMD/Intel processor still applied for those who use Oracle EE. moo_t --219.93.185.42 01:40, 3 December 2007 (CST)
Multi-core factor for processors[edit]
Here are the multi-core factors for some of the more well know processors. Please confirm these amounts with Oracle Sales before using them.
Manufacturer | Processor Type | Cores | Multiplexing factor |
---|---|---|---|
IBM | POWER3 & RS64 | 1 | 1 |
IBM | POWER4 & POWER5 | 2 | 0.75 |
IBM | POWER6 & Z10 | 2 | 1 |
SUN | UltraSPARC IIIi | 1 | 1 |
SUN | UltraSPARC III+ | 1 | 1 |
SUN | UltraSPARC IV+ | 2 | 0.75 |
SUN | UltraSPARC T1 | 8 | 0.25 |
SUN | UltraSPARC T2 | 8 | 0.50 see update on main page |
ASP Provision[edit]
The article states that ASP provision requires additional licensing, however, reading the "Oracle License and Services Agreement V062309" at http://oraclestore.oracle.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=11365&media=os_local_license_agreement I found the phrase "Programs licensed on a processor basis may be accessed by your internal users (including agents and contractors) and by your third party users" (under the "Processor" heading). Given that third party users is not my agents and contractors who can it be but my ASP customers?
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Personal Edition & Options[edit]
According this Oracle website link
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B28359_01/license.111/b28287/editions.htm
"Personal Edition includes all of the components that are included with Enterprise Edition, as well as all of the options that are available with Enterprise Edition, with the exception of the Oracle Real Application Clusters option, which cannot be used with Personal Edition"
So it is not correc to mention that PE cannot use the options.
Concurrent Device Licenses[edit]
I require to know of any official Oracle documentation that indicates that there is a minimum number of Concurrent licenses required per CPU. The main page indicates that the number is "8".
- The official document is your Oracle License and Services Agreement (OLSA) in effect at the time the licenses where purchased. Required license minimums are listed therein. If there is nothing mentioned then the required minimum Concurrent User/Device license is 1.(The 8 quoted here and referenced elsewhere is a myth) Quite often RDBMS Concurrent Device licenses where purchased to cover a number of machines, listed in the agreement also. This restriction was relaxed as Hardware companies merged and in some cases disappeared.
Any chance of information on USAGE restrictions?[edit]
For example:
- Whilst it is essential that production systems are fully licensed, does the same apply to development and test systems (bearing in mind the fact that many Performance test environents need to mirror production systems exactly - down to the versions and editions of software installed)?
- Many organisations have DR systems mirroring their production systems. Given that only one will be in use "live" at once, do both require licensing? (Or is there some special type of license for this situation?)
Named User Plus[edit]
The rules regarding minimum quantities of NUP for SE One and Stnd are still not explained clearly in any of the Oracle documents I've seen. There is also disagreement between Oracle staff, partners and resellers.
The ambiguity relates to whether the minimum of 5 is per processor, core (and if so, does the multi-core factor apply?), server or organization? This is not clearly explained in any of the documents I've consulted. On a number of occasions when Oracle has been asked about it, the answer has been 'per customer!'. As this is not clearly documented anywhere, I guess most people work on the basis of 5 per processor (without core factor). This would be the most expensive option - but probably the safest given the lack of clarity.
License[edit]
The license model is not up to date ...
Oracle 12 SE2 is much more restrictive (and more expensive)
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- Feel free to update the wiki with the new SE2 license.
- Michel Cadot (talk) 18:50, 15 June 2016 (CEST)
Update on the licensing model related to cloud offerings would be helpful, http://dbtechno.blogspot.com/2019/09/oracle-core-factor-table.html